APCP – Stakeholder Minutes and papers

Meeting of 29 January 2021

TimeItemPresenter and PaperDescription
10:25Join call
10:30Introductions, apologies
and actions
Dame Kate Barker
Paper APCP-S(20)12
October 2020 Minutes
Terms of Reference for
the APCP-S
Introduction and apologies.
Cover actions from the October
meeting.
Annual review of Terms of
Reference
10:45Progress update on the
Alternative Data
Sources Roadmap
Miss Sofia Poni
Paper APCP-S(21)01 ADS
Roadmap Update January
2021
An update on the progress
made against the Alternative
Data Sources Roadmap and the
plans over the next two years.
11:15Joined by National
Statistician and Second
Permanent Secretary
Sir Ian Diamond and Sam
Beckett
Sir Ian and Sam to introduce
themselves and outline their
thoughts on the Panel and its
future role.
12:00Initial VOA-based rents
estimate
Mr Michael Hardie and
Miss Natalie Jones
A presentation of the initial
rents estimate using date
received from the Valuation
Office Agency.
12:30Technical Panel
Updates – December
2020 and January 2021
Mr Grant FitznerDiscuss papers1 and outcomes
of the Technical Panel meetings
held on Friday 18 December
2020 and Friday 15 January
2021.
12:45Progress on developing
2021 CPIH/CPI weights
Mr Michael HardieSummary of the on-going work
to develop weights for 2021.
13:00AOB / SummaryDame Kate BarkerAOB
Dates of next meetings:
30 April 2021
23 July 2021
Joint APCP meeting – Autumn
2021 (TBC)
22 October 2021

1 The following papers, in addition to the Rental indices development plans and progress, were presented:

  • Weekly online price changes for food and drink items methodology (Ms Helen Sands) – This paper outlines the Challenges presented by producing weekly price indices, as well as our plans for improving the indices in the coming months.
  • Research indices using scanner data (Ms Jo Corless) – Ms Corless presented the latest research undertaken into the use of scanner data in our consumer price indices.
  • Refunds in scanner data (Mr George Bettsworth) – This paper provided preliminary advice on how to consider refunds in scanner data.
  • Classification of Alternative Data Sources (Mr Liam Greenhough) – Mr Greenhough provided an update on clothing classification and research for grocery classification.

Via Conference Call

Members in attendance

  • Dame Kate Barker (Chair)
  • Jonathan Athow (ONS)
  • Jonathan Camfield (Lane Clark & Peacock)
  • Grant Fitzner (ONS)
  • Richard Gibson (Barnett Waddingham)
  • Simon Hayes (Bank of England)
  • Michael Hardie (ONS)
  • Jenny King (Which?)
  • Ashwin Kumar (Manchester Metropolitan University)
  • Jill Leyland (Royal Statistical Society)
  • Ian Rowson (Independent Policy Analyst)
  • Daniela Silcock (Pensions Policy Institute)
  • James Smith (Resolution Foundation)
  • Geoff Tily (Trade Union Congress)
  • Thomas Yeomans (HM Treasury), in place of Daniel Gallagher
  • Alex Waddington (HM Treasury), in place of Daniel Gallagher

Special Guests

  • Sir Ian Diamond – National Statistician, for item 3
  • Sam Beckett – ONS Second Permanent Secretary, from item 2

Secretariat

  • Andy King (ONS)

Presenters

  • Tanya Flower (ONS)
  • Chris Payne (ONS)
  • Sofia Poni (ONS)

Observer

  • Sami Mubarak (ONS)

1. Introduction, apologies and action

  1. The Chair welcomed everyone to the meeting.
  2. The minutes from the previous meeting (23 October 2020) were reviewed. Any incomplete actions are included in the agenda for this meeting.
  3. The Panel discussed their role as a standing committee existing on an ongoing basis, due to the important impact of consumer price inflation on wage negotiation and in contracts. The Terms of Reference refer to the Johnson review – the Panel felt it would now be appropriate to broaden this, especially following the outcome of the Retail Prices Index (RPI) consultation.
    Action: ONS to draft a paper for the Panel to consider how the Johnson Review recommendations map through to the current position, following the development of the Household Costs Indices (HCIs), and whether there are further areas, like user needs, which should also be considered.
  4. As part of item 3, the Panel discussed the Terms of Reference with Sir Ian and agreed that the Panel should feel empowered to set its own direction working together with the National Statistician. Sir Ian described the Panel as the “lightning rod for user needs … bringing massive and brilliant expertise” and he added that he values the advice the Panel gives.
  5. Sam Beckett outlined that the ONS need to provide clarity on the Panel’s role in providing external scrutiny as part of the ONS’s quality assurance.

2. Progress update on the Alternative Data Sources Roadmap

  1. Sofia Poni presented the progress ONS has made against the Alternative Data Sources (ADS) Roadmap and the project’s future plans. Sofia outlined that the number of price quotes used in Consumer Prices Index including owner occupiers’ housing costs (CPIH) and the Consumer Prices Index (CPI) is likely to grow from 180,000 to between 600 and 800 million per month by 2023, which in turn raises questions on using the data appropriately.
  2. Sofia noted that restrictions resulting from the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic may impact on the implementation of ADS for some holiday and transport items.
  3. The Panel were invited to comment on the ADS roadmap, in particular the flexibility around the proposed parallel run of an ADS-based measure in 2022, alongside the headline consumer price inflation measures:
    1. The Chair thanked Sofia for her helpful presentation and welcomed Sam Beckett to the meeting.
    2. The Panel then thanked ONS for continuing to make substantial progress during the COVID-19 pandemic, in particular for the introduction of timely measures of consumer price inflation, which helped users understand the effects of COVID-19 on spending.
    3. There was interest from the Panel in expanding the weekly consumer price measures to other items (these are published as part of the Faster Indicators release). Sofia responded that there are no intentions to expand the coverage of these statistics in the short-term due to resource constraints.
    4. Panel felt that a year-long parallel run (without significant changes to data, methods and systems) is required as a minimum to understand the effects of seasonal spending. This should be reviewed and extended if needed, as the reputational and practical cost of any issues arising from the use of these new data sources and methods would far outweigh those associated with delaying the implementation of ADS.
    5. The Panel were also cautious of changes being made to the methodology during the parallel run. Sofia reassured the Panel that the parallel run is intended to be based on the near-final methodology, but any further adjustments could result in the parallel run period being extended. Sam Beckett assured the Panel that ONS will be clear what is meant by parallel running, and that this relates to producing supplementary statistics including the new data
      sources and methods alongside the headline statistics. The ONS also plan to table a paper about development plans after 2023 to the Panel later this year.
    6. A Panel member asked if it was possible for the ONS to present the timeline of the weight of the index covered by scanner and web scraped data. This would be a good way to monitor progress.
    7. The ONS were also asked if there is a regional element to the ADS development. Michael Hardie responded that regional development work is being undertaken by Southampton and Strathclyde Universities, and the ADS production system can be adapted to produce regional estimates, if required.
      Action: ONS to present an update on regional development work.
    8. The Panel raised concerns around the risks that the ADS development work is reliant on contracted scanner data feeds, rather than physical collections.
    9. Sofia confirmed that there are data sharing agreements in place, with the current providers required to give six-months’ notice of any changes to their data feed. In-store collection will continue until at least 2030 as it is required to produce the RPI following the outcome of the consultation on the Reform to the Retail Prices Index.
    10. One of the Panel asked how the new process could adjust to changes in the way consumers buy goods and services? Sofia reassured the Panel that scanner and web scraped data are likely to better capture changes in consumer spending patterns. Michael added that modular systems have been developed allowing future data and methods changes to be incorporated at pace, therefore ONS can respond quickly to changes in consumer behaviour.
    11. A Panel member raised the potential for accidental distributional bias, where price data is provided by large supermarkets is not necessarily representative of the spending patterns of people on lower incomes. Sofia remarked that this is a useful point which the ONS will need to consider when developing the use of scanner and web scraped data in the HCIs. The HCI weighting structure would reflect the distribution and, once the ADS has been onboarded, the local collection contract could be refocussed to increase coverage at smaller shops.
    12. The Panel also asked if there are further risks to the project should the pandemic extend further into 2021. Tanya Flower replied that the responsiveness of the production process should enable the ONS to keep better track of the changes in spending. Michael added that the parallel run will take place across 2022 and that it is the ONS’s intention to return to the Panels in autumn 2022 to decide whether it is necessary to extend the parallel run.

3. Discussion with National Statistician and Second Permanent Secretary

  1. The Chair welcomed Sir Ian Diamond to the meeting.
  2. Sir Ian began by thanking the Panel for giving the ONS confidence to continue their development work. He further added that the consumer prices team have done a magnificent job to rethink how ONS collect prices in challenging times and to do so using radical and ambitious strategies.
  3. Sam Beckett introduced herself and outlined that consumer price statistics are a key priority of the refreshed Economic Statistics transformation programme, as it brings together technology, data acquisition and methodology; and economic statistics and analysis.
  4. The Chair thanked Sir Ian and Sam for attending and re-iterated the Panel’s warm appreciation of how the ONS Prices team had coped during the COVID-19 pandemic.
  5. The Panel were given the opportunity to ask Sir Ian and Sam questions:
    1. The Panel asked Sir Ian’s views on the landscape for consumer prices statistics with macro-economic measures (the CPIH and CPI); the Household Cost Indices (HCIs); and the RPI, as the legacy measure. Sir Ian reassured the Panel that the ONS’s focus will be on best meeting user needs, but he did not feel constrained by the landscape.
    2. Sir Ian was asked what his role is in encouraging others to appropriately use the consumer price statistics? He replied that ONS’s role is to propagate the knowledge of alternative indices and their pros and cons, to inform the decisions made by policy makers.
    3. A Panel member raised the point that the RPI discussions have polarised debates. Sir Ian promised the Panel that, during his term as National Statistician, he would do everything he can to ensure that there is a reasonable, respectful and decent conversation with all parties to enable the best solution for the UK.
    4. One of the Panel made the points that the city markets crave clarity and certainty, and that there is some uncertainty following comments from Sir Ian. Sir Ian thanked the Panel member for their comments and this point re-iterated the importance of the Panel. He felt that it was important to settle the uncertainty by reviewing the language used.
    5. Further points raised by the Panel related to preventing any further drift between the CPIH and the RPI in the period to alignment; and the effects on the CPIH and CPI of coming to the end of the EU transition period. Sir Ian reassured the Panel the transition agreement includes statistics, specifically to agree a methodology around GDP. Sir Ian has already had cordial conversations with his counterpart at Eurostat, and he reassured the Panel that the ONS will ensure that it will adhere to the very highest global standards.
    6. Sir Ian was asked for his views on whether the RPI consultation could have been done differently and looking forward to 2030. Sir Ian felt that the consultation was well led by Jonathan Athow – Sir Ian thanked Jonathan for his leadership of the consultation. Looking ahead over the next nine years, Sir Ian returned to his comments on having a reasonable, respectful and decent conversation with all parties.
  6. Sam added that she found the discussions helpful, particularly around the areas to be prioritised. She talked about the relationship between official and National Statistics, and publishing experimental series to provide insights to decision makers.
  7. The Chair thanked Sir Ian and Sam, on behalf of the Panel, for attending. There was agreement that Sir Ian and Sam would attend future meetings.

4. Initial VOA-based rents estimate

  1. Natalie Jones presented on the rents development work using data received from the Valuation Office Agency.
  2. The following discussions have been redacted due to the market sensitive nature of the subject.

5. Technical Panel Update – December 2020 and January 2021

  1. Grant Fitzner gave an update on the Technical Panel meetings held in December 2020 and January 2021, which focused on the development of 2021 CPIH/CPI weights, which is to be discussed at item 6, and the ADS development, specifically:
    1. Weekly online price changes for food and drink items methodology.
    2. Research indices using scanner data.
    3. Refunds in scanner data.
    4. Classification of Alternative Data Sources.

6. Progress on developing 2021 CPIH/CPI weights

  1. Michael Hardie provided a high-level summary of the on-going work to develop the CPIH and CPI weights for 2021.
  2. Given the changes to consumer expenditure patterns during the COVID-19 pandemic, the 2021 CPIH/CPI weights will be estimated from more timely National Accounts data. Classes where the difference between the 2019 based-weights data and the estimated 2020 weights exceeds a pre-determined threshold have been adjusted to reflect the timelier data.
  3. The adjustments have been made in-line with international guidance

7. AOB / Summary

  1. To summarise, the Panel thanked Sir Ian Diamond and Sam Beckett for attending today’s meeting.
    The next Panel meeting will take place at 10:30 on 30 April 2021.

PDF Version of January 2021 minutes

Alternative Data Sources (ADS) Roadmap Update January 2021


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Agenda

Minutes

Household cost indices – National Statistic Roadmap


Meeting of 24 July 2020

Agenda

Minutes

APCP-S response to HMT/UKSA consultation on the reform of the RPI


Meeting of 1 May 2020

Agenda

Minutes

Contingency plan for consumer price statistics in response to the COVID-19 pandemic

Proposal of changes to Price inflation publications


Meeting of 4 April 2020

Agenda

Minutes

ONS RPI Consultation Presentation (please note the RPI consultation has been extended to 21 August 2020)

The Future of RPI Presentation*

* This paper has not been published at this time,in line with previous meeting notes


Meeting of 31 January 2020

Agenda

Minutes

Alternative Data Sources Roadmap

Review of CPIH supporting material

Agenda Redeveloping Private Rental Market Statistics


Meeting of 20 September 2019

Agenda

Minutes

Clothing price relative volatility*

Criteria for shortlisting appropriate index methods

Price collection in a no-deal scenario*

Update on package holidays*

Prioritising suitable categories for the inclusion of alternative data sources

* This paper has not been published at this time, for more information please refer to the published minutes.


Meeting of 24 May 2019

Agenda

Minutes

Draft work programme*

Conceptual foundations of HCIs and ESCOE workshop programme

Implementing alternative methods for package holidays*

Self-review feedback*

* This paper has not been published at this time, for more information please refer to the published minutes.


Meeting of 25 January 2019

Agenda

Minutes

Draft Terms of Reference*

Non-disclosive Data Access Agreement*

Lords Economic Affairs Committee Measuring Inflation

Calculating a price index for capital mortgage repayments

Calculating a price index for student loans

Alternative Data Sources Roadmap

* This paper has not been published at this time, for more information please refer to the published minutes.


Meeting of 17 September 2018

Agenda

Minutes

Reviewing the methodology of the used car price index

The use of the retail price index (RPI)

Proposed pipeline for processing alternative data sources


Meeting of 25 May 2018

Agenda

Minutes

Draft work programme for consumer price statistics*

Investigating the use of web scraped data to improve clothing measurement*

HCIs development plan*

* This paper has not been published at this time, for more information please refer to the published minutes.


Meeting of 2 February 2018

Agenda

Minutes

Producing a historical series for CPIH*

Measuring changes in used car prices

Consumer Prices Data Collection Strategy

Household Costs Indices

* This paper has not been published at this time, for more information please refer to the published minutes.


Meeting of 28 September 2017

Agenda

Minutes

A theoretical framework for the HCIs

Improving clothing measurement in consumer price inflation statistics

Review of quality adjustment in consumer price statistics


Meeting of 31 May 2017

Agenda

Minutes

Future landscape of inflation statistics*

Concepts and purpose of Household Costs Indices

Consumer prices work programme*

* This paper has not been published at this time, for more information please refer to the published minutes.


Meeting of 30 January 2017

Agenda

Minutes

Terms of Reference

RPI and CPI a tale of two formulae

Re-addressing the formula effect

Population sub-groups


Meeting of 9 September 2016

Agenda

Minutes

Inclusion of Council Tax in CPIH


Meeting of 23 May 2016

Agenda

Minutes


Meeting of 22 January 2016

Agenda

Draft Terms of Reference

Minutes

Elementary aggregate formula description

Elementary aggregate formula example


Meeting of 27 November 2015

Agenda

Minutes

Context of Consumer Prices

Summary of responses

Operation of the advisory panels